Same old debates same old blogs, what will be the result some emotional discussions which will last maximum a week.

Eiraad bhai the article was good no doubt but again it was more of Zaid Hamid type, I agree to almost everything (except nationalism) but believe me you are asking for a change. This is not at all time for a change this nation wants a revolution….More precisely an Islamic revolution.

Yesterday I was reading the story how Hazrat Ali bin Abi Talib (R.A) died. I would love to share the last saying or advise to Imam Hassan and Hussain (R.A) “Oh my children remember one thing in your life, you will come across tyranny and injustice in your life, remember in your life at that time either kill tyranny or get yourself martyred. There will be no other way out”

A must read is also the the azaab on Qaum-e-Samood, there were only 9 corrupt people in that society for the rest Quran has used the word “they were like shepherds who only know when to eat”

Don’t u think we lack here….Why not I am the one who threw the shoe on Bush….Why am I not fighting for Hizbollah or Talibans….Believe me the day if I get prison-ed only that day i will be on the right path as said the people with the law and the media will not let the right person live!!!!

I have received few more messages similar to what you said “if you know what i mean” well, i dont care - i say what i feel…!

and yeah - let the Bob Sugar come I always have alternate plans of “finding promising clients”

We still believe, or atleast are NOT SURE, if 9/11 was a master-mind plan of AlQaida or Pentagon…!

I remember, in 1998, one of my teachers had so truly told me, that “they will RULE the World, who Rule the Media in 21st Century”. And see what’s happening. I believe its NOT hard for us to believe, that today’s Media, of all forms, along with all Economy Banks, are owned by Jews of Israel. Internet, Paper, Print, Satellite, Terrestrial and even Telecom Media is all controlled and owned by them. We dont need to go abroad - our very own private TV Channels are shared by Jewish Financers upto 50%…!

That’s exactly what I meant, when I said “We Dont Believe This, because we dont see it. We dont see it, because we cant see it. We cant see it, because they wont let us see it”

Even the link you have posted says “This quotation has very interesting Internet History” and that “it last appeared some 6 years back”. So, they control all of it…!

And yeah, I admit we as a Nation have been having terrible shortfalls. First of it being “LIES” - we love to tell “LIES” - which deprives us of Divine Help, and we are left with our “Silly Human Nature” only…! and thus all this disturbances in Body & Soul…all around…!

Yeah, I bring ISLAM too much into everything, as Islam is more than just a BOOK from Allah. It tells you everything, from washing your face, to ruling Billions of People in this World…! Yeah, I agree blaming all of them is NOT good at my end…! But in my articles, I always refer to “JEWS” as “Satanists”, and not “Rubbies” who are also Jews but they follow the word of ALLAH ALMIGHTY exactly as we do, as they are Believers, like us.

And yeah, I strongly agree with IQBAL when he says “Juda ho Deen Sayaasat say, to reh jaati hai Changaizi…!”

Lastly as you mentioned - becomes very clear and understandable as to “why” it happened so, by watching the video i have posted. They were doing this all the time. And guys, I AM NOT SAYING AT ALL that it was all their Evil Genius Plans and we were a straight VITCIM…NO - I ADMIT, we have been having horrible shortfalls within ourselves as well. But WHY…??? That’s what I want to find out, and try to rectify it. So far, I believe its like a web, that they only throw once, and we, by our own mistakes and stupidity, start to expand the web around us.

Amar: You are right, about Nationalism here. That’s exactly what “they” did with Arab & Asia (here “they” refers to Zionist Movements o France & Britain throughout 19th & 20th Centuries) - they cut the Ottoman Empire into “countries”, and literally killed the idea of a Caliphate.

Why I promote PAKISTAN as a NATION & Country a lot, because I see Pakistan as “launching pad” for the next Caliphate, inshaALLAH. For that purpose, there has to be one GROUP of people, of believers that would rise again. Remember the migration of Prophet (SAW) to Madina - He (SAW) collected and enriched with “Islam”, the souls of a FEW people, in a GROUP…and years later the World saw Fatah MAKKAH. I see Pakistan as HOME to “those few people” of this time.

I). Indiscriminate use of percentages based on perceptions to bring home a point…

2). Authenticity of BenJourion’s comments pertinent to Pakistan…This quote has been widely discussed and I fail to verify it… This link will create more doubts in mind:
http://solomon2.blogspot.com/2008/12/debunking-ben-gurion-on-pakistan.html

3. Nevertheless,even if the quote is true, we first need to realize that we are full of crap. We blame others for our failures. We ridicule hindus, we ridicule non Muslims, we ridicule anyone who we could. Our children since childhood are taught that the Jews will always be their enemies (as a result no matter what goes on, we smell conspiracy), we take pride in stories of Muhammad bin Qasim and how he destroyed the temples…

Anyways, Of course, there will always be clashes of interest between subjects, but that does not mean that there is a world-wide scheme devised by “Satanic forces” to crush down a “pious Muslim nation” or “Ummah”…

Principle of humanity should be given preference over principle of nationalism, religion etc.

Having said that, my comments above should be regarded as queries rather than statements.

Shujaat

One thing…… if what you are saying is true - and infact the disallusionment of most of our youth is a REALITY - then why were we and still are powerless to challenge the enemy? Seems like when economy, unity, trust, patriotism, rationalism is in ruins (current situation) then degradation happen very quickly.

You bring Islam too much into your writings and hatred to the JEWS. I always thought that looking to world with the lens of religion is not going to do any good. It will divide us, and spread hatred. Im not saying some acts of these people are not disgusting, but blaming all of them, i dont know, sounds simplistic in analysis.

And you didn’t mention that during the time period you foccused (1994-2010) our population exploded, and resources didn’t increase with the same proportion. We planned poorly and currept oppurtunist governments come and go, we did not provide education, dams, and direction. Nation was allowed to be plundered. Brain drain was at its peak, the globalization wreak havoc to local economy, and we kept watching, all confused and idiots….

Though in my view this ‘nationalism’ is also a tool of those who currently control the world. We should be ‘one’ based on our religion alone and nothing else.